Stead and Walters to start banging them in! Win the next two games! you really are an optimist if you think both will happen.

Proabably best we can hope for is to draw and win the odd one till Jan, then give Keane the chance to prove himself once and for all in the transfer market in order to get ourselves out of this mess where are in.

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Must admit I find the abuse of Calum a bit much. I'd have thought the vast majority of Town fans are currently very unhappy.

I find the ability to find positives in the current situation turly amazing and I can't see why people who suggest that 14 without a win and bottom is not a good thing are getting abused. Ridiculous.

yes, we played very well against Watford and were unlucky and we were average against Swansea (not poor) but the fact remains that two weeks ago the same people who were saying 'a couple of wins here and we'll be....' are still saying the same thing. How many times are you going to say it before you begin to suspect that maybe we need an awful lot more than a couple of wins.

After all, we're talking about a couple of wins to get us away from the bottom! I think it's safe to say that most fans would have expected play-offs this season (and if you say not then I frankly don't believe you, as we expected them under Jim (and nearly made them) so it should have been the least to expect really.

And SuperfudeBlue, if people want Garvan to be given a chance I don't consider that unreasonable. Who are you to say to stop going on about it. The fact that so many people go on about it so much should suggest to you that maybe they have a point.

And our midfield is not fine - Roy has changed it almost every game and is still doing so. so he obviously doesn't agree with your statement either!

We're lacking creativity - we certainly did on Saturday and, as far as I know, we only really have one creative midfielder.....

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SuperFudeBlue: this statement makes no sense:
"question is it just coincedence that Magilton is doing better with GPR than he did with town, just like Keane was better with Sunderland than he is with town - so maybe the squad isnt as good as everyone wants to make ot, maybe Garvan, Wright etc arent that good!."

You suggest that proof that the players that played under Jim and not Roy are bad is because we were better when they were in the team. That would seem to prove the opposite, surely.

Errr. I may have missed something there, in which case I apologise in advance, but I can't see it.

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By the way, not suggesting Garvan is God's gift - or will in fact even be that good.

But it wouldn't hurt to find out.

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I think Magilton (as Keane) created his own problems when Marcus Evans started handing him lots of (imho) needless cash..we were doing pretty well uptil that point and Jim got carried away with his spending as has Keane.
Last season Jim rotated his team endlessly , a mistake he seems to have learnt from at QPR which is why he's proving a lot of supporters wrong.
If only he'd done that last season I firmly believe he'd still be here (or maybe not as he wasn't the big name our owners wanted)..and we wouldn't be anywhere near the mess we're in.
Can't believe that there's so many blinkered Keane fans out there who think one win will turn it around - if we win saturday it'll just paper over the cracks...we need lots of wins from here to may and that's just to avoid the drop -remember , you're looking at 50+ points in this division just to stay up.

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Naa- we always have disagreements until we find a line to agree on lol

Ok the garvan situation - just because say 100 fans all want him in th team, does that mean that he should be? No, the same as you could have 100 family member shouting at your own boss for sacking you - does that mean your boss is wrong? No.
What im saying is spend less time moaning about garvin not being included and look at the players on the pitch!.
And about the statement about jim etc - our team is no better now than it was wth jim - only three of Keanes signings are showing their worth, and showing that they are superior to the rest of the team.
So what im saying is Jim couldnt get rid of them, and now neither can Keane - but if he does, you lot will hate him for getting rid of a blue?!. he cant win.

Anyways - I will not start slagging of the manager until that day comes if mathamaticlly we are relegated but until then - In keane i Trust just like i gave Jim time and burley and Royle - never sack a manager unless things really do go wrong.

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clutching at straws??

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ballo - its called real-life

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Not sure we're going to find any common ground this time I'm afraid. So I may stop after this or it'll get silly.

I'm not advocating sacking yet, either. But similarly I'm not sticking my head in the sand about our position.

OK, I understand your point re:Garvan but those calling for him (including me) are of the opinion that the midfield needs more creativity and it's odd that Keane has frozen him out. To that end I AM looking at the players on the pitch - and I think they are lacking (after all, they must be, we are bottom of the table).

I'd also like to quote this "our team is no better now than it was wth jim". Surely it's much, much worse. OK, recent performances have been better (even that is arguable, as only the Watford game stands out as a decent performance). But only better than what went before - which was utter dross.

And still not sure about your point about Keane not getting rid of the old guard (I guess Wright and Keane are in your mind here). Surely he effectively has done that but dropping Wright and freezing Garvan out. So again, what's your point?

And are you serious when you say you will not criticise a manager until he's got us relegated? Bloody hell! We're meant to be getting promoted here (or at least looking like it might be possible next year)!

I do hope we won't be getting an optimistic blog from you after every game until we're mathematically down.

That could get very tedious.

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Superflude... you bore me with the fact that just because Keane is not picking Garvan he is crap .
Fact -top scoring midfielder last year
Fact - most assists last year
Fact - Started 3 games for Keane ,won 2
Fact - 11 games without him in squad ZERO victories
Fact - he took Plymouth apart last year

You do not know if Garvan came in that he would not make a difference, and the last time i looked he was an Ipswich player so get behind him and support the youngster . Our team is not working ,so why are we so against trying something else ? is it because if Garvan does play well and we win everyone will question why he hasnt been playing like Wright and Stead ?
Surely as an Ipswich fan anything that can help the situation would be a good thing and something you would welcome ?

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Fully agree and this positivity is what we need on here. I too can see what Keano is trying to achieve and still fully believe we will finish top half.
Come on You Blue Boys

PS Calymgary whatsit...I suspect it is you your girlfriend laughs at , in common with most of us on here that do also. Loser.

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Surco - I'm not saying Garvan is crap - i realld do olike the player i have done ever since he broke into the first team, what i'm saying is there must be a reason why he isn't playing - no fans know the answer to that, so what im saying is insead of continuously stating that keane should start Garvan, how about looking at alternatives as its clear for some reason kean wont start Garvan.

Naa - dont worry i wont positive all the time, trust took a lot following the watford game not to swear about concentration.

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Superflude as you said results and performances are improving over recent weeks and also as you said only 3 of Keanes signings are now playing so you are saying the team Keane inherited is not as bad as the one he assembled ,seem that way !!

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Hmmm, so you don't want to hear about Garvan because you completely trust that Keane hasn't got it wrong about him and there MUST be a perfectly good reason why he's dropped.

That seems overly trusting to me.

After all David Wright got dropped for no good reason and is now back playing much better than Delaney ever did. And yes, I know you've convinced yourself that he's much better after Keane's kick up the bum but I completely disagree and think he's only back in the team because Keane had to eat humble pie and accept that he didn't have a better alternative.

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I would like to be convinced that there is positivity but I cannot find it although
I would dearly love to. We have a defence that looks decidely shaky with every match we play and we have a forward line that generally does not work whoever plays. On top of that we have Trotter not anywhere good enough, Peters (midfield right one week, left back the next) Martin the biggest waste of money this Club have ever spent even worse than Le Penn and other signings who have been a waste of money i.e. Delaney, Healy and Priskin. The team still does not gel and we have no pattern to our play. Walters and Stead up front will not work it never has and never will but it seems whoever we play up front it does not work. We are still not a team which is hardly surprising with the number of changes we make every single week. Sorry but how can we be positive and I think Derby should be the last chance saloon for Keane and I have previously backed him.

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Not at all, Surco - i always believed that magiltons team wasn't a bad team, and i remember having many conversations in the Robson bar about maybe replacing a couple of players but not to many - So yes i agree with the Rosenior Edwards and Leadbitter signings ( and Bergovic ) but the rest i'm honest so i'll say i never understood why we bought them - however there must have been a reason for the lack of team unity last yeay when we needed it - so could Garvan maybe be this reason? I didnt agree with Rhodes going - but he has so we have to forget him, im praying Keane will stick with Stead and counago up front - Priskin to me could be good but we havent got time to wait, and Martins for me has been a flop and to be fair - doesnt deserve an 18 place. So ok, for me lets say Garvans been injured yeah for arguments sake. How about this for a team? tell me if you think it would get us safe.
Begovic
Rosenior Mcauley Smith Wright
Edwards Leadbitter Norris Cevilli
Counago Stead
OMG - WHAT A TEAM!

So what im saying is be patient - i will be happy to scrape through this year - but i wont except a bad season next

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and yes i know where norris and cevilli is lol

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Sonian blue who the fcuk are you, my girlffriend laughs at me, if only you knew! You think that positivity will win us games - a settled side with new defenders will win us games not a load of fans writing positive comments on here! words cant describe how stupid you m ake yourself look! the worst thing is you aint alone there seems to be alot of morons on here who seem to cheer everytime we draw or lose - t*ss*ers

The only ones who laugh at me on here are the ones who have the same stupid and sh*t opinion! Comment by comment is making me realise that there are alot of people on here who actually dont have a clue! However there area few who do.

naa - thanks, you have given me a bit more faith that not all itfc fans are idiots, yeah i said it! Time after time i wtrite a comment (or anyone who posts a negative comment) on here only to be berated by some sad individuals who think i am a norwich fan - seriously look back at some of the comments and see hwo much of a d*ck some of you have made yourself look!

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callum - Im not a hater of ur comments - i enjoy reading them, that why i write my blogs to bring out comments, good or bad.
At the end of the day these are opinions and wheter we ahve the over positive fans or the realist fans or the success hungry fans one aim we all have is to cheer the blues on

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I’d like to think that my glass is always half full but I’m afraid it will take a bit more than a few draws to convince me that we’re even close to turning the corner just yet. Even if we were to draw all 46 games in a season we would still have to consider ourselves lucky to avoid the drop. That’s exactly how many points Norwich scored last season and the year before Leicester went down on 52!!

Before the 3 points for win system was introduced any draw away from home could be considered a good return and if we still had that system in place we would only be a solitary point away from safety at the moment. But the simple fact of the matter is that drawing a majority of your games is no longer good enough. We need some WINS and we need them fast if this season isn’t going to turn into an unthinkable relegation struggle.

I still believe we have far too much quality in our side to be relegated and that with a change in our luck and a boost to our confidence, a string of good results is only just around the corner. But there again so did my friends who support Leeds and Leicester in recent history.

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I agree a good side ,but at the same time from that team Wright has been isolated , Mac,Counago and Stead told they can go ,decisions like these is why so many are questioning Keanes decisions ,
For what its worth SBFlude here is my team for the Derby game -
Begowic
Rosenoir,Bruce(would be Mac),Smith,Wright
Edwards,Leadbitter,Garvan,Walters
Stead,Counago

Nice talking to you it been emmotional

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Superfludeblue - my comment is not aimed at you and i appreciate the way in which you put your point across! Its the others on hwere who seem to think they need to defend there club when someone points out the obvious! Having people say my gf laughs at me does not insult me just makes me think who the fcuk are they to comment on my private life?

It was not a bad blog I just find it hard to look at the positives as there are NO poitives in my eyes!

Again sonianblue - where and who are ya? sl*t

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lol surco

I agree with your team - if no Garvan - i'd bring trotter back in - i know not everyones favourite i but i felt we missed him on saturday.

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Callum I would write a big massive blog on all positives but - that would so piss people off lol.
So after the derby game depending on the performace, you may see a blog from me which may even get a high five from some boo boys lol.
But even though i remain positive - it doesnt stop me swearing at the tv, swearing in the stands, and i certainly am aware of where we are in the table. so although i remain positive - things can change.

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callum people who try and post postive things are trying to lift people spirts yes we are in a bad run but being postive is good being upbeat and passionate about your club and does not make a person an idiot.

If you don't like what people say or that like it or lump it really we do not need miserable negative people on this board or supporting are club.

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